Jun 17, 2020
A8 Interview | Extending Stage Stories with Video and Installation: "The Cat's Romance" Producer Zhou Meng
Q:How have your experiences growing up in different countries
and studying different disciplines like oil painting and dynamic imagery influenced your understanding and creation of art?
A:To give a simple example, perhaps it is easier to understand in the context of architecture.
It’s not just a physical structure but also requires contemporary humanistic filling,
the harmonization of natural dynamics,
and the assistance of modern technology, among other things.
I do not reject diverse cultural backgrounds;
art, as a bridge for communication,
conveys experiences and feelings to the audience through visual and instinctual perception rather than language.
A collector once told me about the core of his collection.
He believed that the earliest civilizations all had shamanistic cultures,
which included medicine, painting, theology, architecture, feng shui, etc.
As civilization evolved, these elements split into different professions and experiences.
Early art was also a broad integration with society.
We shouldn’t view it in isolation today.
Anima and Animus, digital printing and monoprint
Q:How did your study experience in London influence you?
And what is your view on identity?
A:Growing up in different cultural environments,
particularly in the formative years of developing a worldview, undeniably has a profound impact.
As part of the post-90s generation,
the social and value systems gradually formed during university
and early interactions with society are continuously influenced by the surrounding environment.
British culture and institutions are somewhat similar to China,
with many differences in national conditions and thinking habits.
In these two cultures, I am both a participant and an observer.
These roles allow me to explore cultural boundaries, collisions, and integrations.
This sensitivity and broad-mindedness, observing differences while developing my standpoint, is the benefit of this experience.
Regarding identity and self-definition, there are times of confusion.
Often, people think we can merge the benefits of both cultures.
However, the reality is that group identity isolation is greater than individual obstacles.
Like a bridge connecting two places, but most of the time, people are on the bridge, belonging to neither side.
There is a saying in Shaoxing,
“Mount Yin doesn't care for Mount Kuaiji,”
which people can look up if interested.
Dance Teaching 101, iPad painting
——About "Self," "Body," and "Poetry"——
Q :From your first solo exhibition "Cautious Alone" on Shanghai's Bund
to your first solo exhibition in London "0.064g,"
to the self-emotions evoked by the senses in "Harmonics,"
and then "Reduce Trembling,"
which aims to reduce self-doubt and enhance self-reflection,
how has this series of clues extended the study of "self"?
A:Phenomenon and feeling
Sometimes unaware
Drunk in a moment
Becoming oblivious
Or said
Not thinking
Empty existence
Returning to oneself
Equal with spirit
An inch of muscle trembles
Sound and touch
Breath and taste
Body cognizes
All unconstructed connections
As a carrier
Perception is the sum of past experiences.
Quoting a previous essay, it’s a learning process.
Analyzing cognition goes from shallow to deep,
from the phenomenon of muscle relaxation,
the rhythm of individual breathing, to detaching from language and thinking habits,
returning to instinctual bodily sensations.
Humans are beautiful, which is why there is an enduring fascination.
It's an open-ended topic, with self-learning development while trying to resonate and guide the audience’s feelings,
the commonality and individuality of being human are marvelous phenomena.
Cloud Gate, ink and powder print
Q:Speaking of the body, you mentioned being influenced by your mother and Pina Bausch.
How did they impact your understanding of the body, and how is it reflected in your work?
A: My medical family background instilled a reverence for life and a sense of regret,
understanding the fragility of human composition,
the nature of birth, aging, illness, and death.
Beautiful yet transient, also feared, fearing moments of change and unrecorded regrets.
Early paintings studied the human body’s structure, muscle, and fat distribution for creation.
Often avoiding real people, I created non-existent individuals through recognized structures, devoid of facial features,
instead communicating through complete body language.
Pina’s power transcends words, encompassing absurd joys and sorrows, and trembling anger.
Like wild poppies covering an island, enduring destined storms and gales;
wearing a dress,
arms bent—falling,
knees trembling—collapsing,
visually wandering through those breathing movements, sound, and body, living likewise.
In my works, it’s hard to summarize direct visual influence;
I can only describe it as absurd and romantic poetry, many things are indeed hard to articulate.
Self, iPad painting
Q:You express through poetry and have published poetry collections.
What does poetry mean to you?
I understand it as one of many mediums;
how does it complement your need for expression?
A:Poetry is fragments, a mirror, we use ourselves to become it when we read.
Not an instruction manual, history, or any scientific publication.
Scattered information, but with photon crystal-like refractions of a butterfly’s wings, any angle and light become different rhythms.
This form is no different from artistic creation;
reality is too arrogant, needing soft fantasies.
Everyone has their way of recording life.
For me, straightforward documentaries can express objective facts, but I don’t always need that.
Often, it’s through the past, recalling emotions and states.
Fragmented language with complete imagination and emotion is enough.
The Rite of Spring, iPad painting
—— Zhou Meng and "The Cat's Romance"——
Q:In the first series of "The Cat's Romance" in 2019 at the Britten Theatre,
as a collaborating artist,
what artistic creation did you engage in?
A:As part of the main creative team, we structured the main storyline and discussed details.
From the diffusion of poetry (music appreciation in a confinement room)
to experimental prop details (toilet paper flying everywhere),
it was a joyful process.
Notably, we added live painting with double-layer projections as stage backgrounds and floor projections.
My real-time drawings were projected onto the stage, interacting with the dancers.
Many original paintings were also incorporated into the images.
We even visited a cat adoption center for inspiration but decided not to adopt due to time constraints.
As a child, I watched a Danish director’s stage play in Shanghai,
"The Snake's Poetry,"
which also featured live ink painting and stage scene projections.
If a Westerner can use such Eastern techniques, surely a compatible Chinese team can do the same.
I believe the core of collaboration isn’t just self-artistic expression but also listening and reflecting.
Scene from "The Cat's Romance" Series One, with artist and dancer in painting
Q:What different changes can we expect in the second series of "The Cat's Romance"?
Can you share some insights for our readers?
A:The initiator of "The Cat's Romance" in London is a musician, and much of our creation is based on music.
This time, the script is entirely re-created by the director, a new chapter.
This creation will bring the stage closer to the audience, with some scents like mint to give a refreshing feel in midsummer.
The space will also be richer, with A8 generously providing many space options.
We will have four stages, allowing the audience to move around and choose their viewing experience, dispersing the crowd.
As a benefit, here’s a poem the director and I both love,
which is also a theme of one of the units this time.
Receiving a Cat Named Xue'er from a Nearby Village and Playing with It, Writing a Poem (By Lu You)
Like a tiger, it can climb trees, Like a foal, it won't obey the reins.
Only knows the empty mouse holes, No intention of being a fish eater.
Occasionally drunk with mint, Blankets warm every night.
In a past life, it was a child, Accompanying me in my old mountain village.
Q:How do you view the role of art forms
like moving images and installations in performance (environmental theater)?
A:Video and installation, as extensions of stage stories,
inherently have strong narrative awareness and media interaction with actors.
As a benefit of modern technology,
stage expressions have many possibilities, constantly refining the experience and providing support in the creative process.
Breathing bodies are simple; balancing new and old relationships is crucial.
We don't want to overshadow guests by showing them a movie.
The real connection between people on stage remains the focus.
Scene from "The Cat's Romance" Series One
Q:Can you introduce your new creations during the pandemic?
What reflections do they bring on the current situation?
A:During the pandemic, I was supposed to be an artist-in-residence in Panama
but stayed home instead, fantasizing about sunshine and jungles with willow branches.
The new series is called - Focus, understood as concentrating and reflecting,
from the eyes to nature, classical to mythological, and tactile feelings.
It's like a garden, with countless gazes,
whether driven by human themes or natural and historical observations, alternating between guest and host.
I hope to express a longing for natural and human culture through dispersion and using naturally recyclable materials.
This pandemic might be nature's counterattack, healing.
Focus, part of the works
Q:Can you recommend a book you like?
A:Initially, I had other plans, but after writing so much about poetry interaction,
I'll introduce a poetry collection by British poet William Blake—*Songs of Innocence and of Experience*,
with illustrations and poems, not tiring to read.
William is a somewhat tragic painter and poet;
everyone can enjoy it combined with his life and the British social background at the time, enhancing the experience.
The book tells of innate innocence to societal critique, a shadow existing everywhere and anytime.
Songs of Innocence and of Experience, image from the internet